Ed Sheeran and Taylor Swift make it a point to spend as much time together as they can.
“I see her when I see her,” Sheeran, 34, said during his Wednesday, April 9, appearance on the “Call Her Daddy” podcast. “I probably see her, like, four times a year.”
Their hangouts these days are “proper sit down, six-hour catch-ups,” Sheeran explained. “I think that’s like a really nice way to do it.”
Sheeran’s friendship with Swift, 35, started in 2012 after they collaborated on the song “Everything Has Changed” for her album Red. Sheeran then joined Swift on her Red Tour the following year.
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Sheeran told “Call Her Daddy” host Alex Cooper that “that the period of time that I was on The Red Tour” is full of his favorite memories with Swift.
“I lived in Nashville, and she lived in Nashville. And we used to fly to and from the gigs together and do all sorts of [stuff],” he recalled. “I literally spent almost every single day with her for about six months.”
Sheeran also explained that he recently got a chance to look back at the early days of his friendship with Swift.
“I was in these court cases for, like, two years. Well, I mean, a lot longer than two years, but there was one each year and I had to go through all my old devices to give them, like, you know, voice notes and blah, blah, blah for the lawyers to have,” he shared. “Going through all my old texts with people that I’ve known for that long, it was really, like, nostalgic.”
Sheeran briefly discussed the court case in a different interview last month, revealing that he hasn’t used a cell phone since 2015. (Sheeran was involved in a copyright infringement lawsuit regarding his song “Thinking Out Loud.” A jury cleared him of any wrongdoing in 2023.)
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“In the lawsuit, they order you to give up all your old devices,” the singer said on The Tonight Show Starring Jimmy Fallon. “So I handed everything in, but I haven’t used a phone. I moved to a tablet in 2015, just on email, and so I switched my phone off in 2015 and left it in a box.”
Sheeran added: “I switched it on, it was like going into a time machine. Like, the first text was my friend that had passed away the year before. The second text was an argument with an ex-girlfriend. The third text was a family member I haven’t spoken to in 10 years. The fourth text was another mate that died.”
The experience “really spun me out,” Sheeran added, noting that it ended up becoming the inspiration for his latest single, “Old Phone.”
“That day, I wrote in my notes, like, ‘I found my old phone today,’” he continued. “Then … I ended up writing it into a song.”
