Rachel Zoe’s youngest son has some thoughts about life without Rodger Berman.
“I guess my questions, how does it feel in general? Like, over the last year,” Rachel, 54, asked her sons, Skyler, 14, and Kaius, 12, during the Thursday, March 5, episode of The Real Housewives of Beverly Hills. “Do you feel like this is better than before? Worse than before? Different than before?”
Skyler responded that it was the “same but different.” Kaius expanded on that answer.
“He wasn’t really here a lot anyway,” Kaius told his mom. “But now, he’s just completely gone. There’s not really a trace of him.”
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Rachel asked if the “energy” in the house is “different” with Rodger gone.
“Yeah,” Kaius responded. “It feels a bit more peaceful.”
In her confessional, Rachel explained that she and Kaius have previously discussed her relationship with Rodger.”
“Sadly, Kaius has said that he was mad at me for letting me be treated the way that I was,” Rachel said. “Because that means I’m not modeling well for what they think love and marriage and relationships should look like or feel like.”
She added, “More importantly, how they should talk to someone they love.”
Rachel and Rodger were married for 26 years before announcing their decision to separate in September 2024. Rachel filed for divorce in July 2025. The day she filed was showcased on a January episode of RHOBH.
The discussion between Rachel and her sons came after her filing because they were at camp when news of the divorce broke.
“I just want to let you know that we are — you may have already assumed this — but we are moving forward in getting divorced,” Rachel said, noting that she wanted to have an “open forum” with her sons.
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She also brought up Rodger introducing his girlfriend to the boys right before they left for camp, which was revealed earlier on this season.
“I did not know about that because I, obviously, would not have allowed that,” she said. “So I want to understand what actually happened.”
Kaius said that Rodger introduced the woman as his “friend,” understanding that she was “the person.” Skyler noted he “didn’t really care enough.”
In her confessional, Rachel said that the boys “don’t want to know her,” nor do they “want to be around her.” Rachel also told Skyler and Kaius that if Rodger’s girlfriend is present while he’s taking care of the boys, they “have every right” to leave.
“I really have always believed that kids are better off having two parents that love them separately than two that fight all day and live miserably,” Rachel said during her confessional. “That’s just bad all around.”
The Real Housewives of Beverly Hills airs on Bravo Thursdays at 8 p.m. ET and streams the next day on Peacock.
